I am surprised
to find no mention of Mrs. Swain
anywhere on this site (or if there
is, I have missed it). She taught
the senior class, the 10-year-olds,
during the war years. She was
the best teacher I ever came across.
She really knew how to inspire
her pupils and to encourage them
in all sorts of interests. I heard
of her again several years later
in 1953. I was abroad at the time,
and my mother told me she had
met her. I believe she had retired
by then.
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The Haystack
In 1941 (I think
it was), the grass in the playing
field was allowed to grow all
through the summer, and was cut
in the autmn to make hay. Whoever
cut it must have cursed the children
who had made mazes and dens in
it! The hay was formed into a
haystack in the north corner of
the playing field next to Aldborough
Road. But alas, this valiant attempt
to help the war effort came to
nothing. The haystack caught fire
by spontaneous combustion. I remember
seeing the flames and smoke starting
and the school caretaker dashing
past me into the school, presumably
to phone the Fire Brigade. But
it was too late. The haystack
was totally destroyed.
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Seven Kings Park:
I remember the site near the Bedford
Road entrance as a barrage balloon
site, and I have reason to remember
it; I used to zigzag across the
allotments from the Wellington
Road entrance to Aldborough Road
on my way to school. One morning
there was a high-pitched singing
noise, and I saw a cable snaking
and curling down towards me. It
landed about thirty feet away.
The balloon had broken free of
its cable.
And on the Scots
Guards: On one occasion they held
an exercise on the rough ground
on which the Aldborough Court
flats were later built and in
the school grounds (only in front
of the school, I think). All very
exciting for us, with blank cartridges
being fired and thunderflashes
going off.
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Between September
1939 and the reopening of the
school in June 1940, those children
who had not been evacuated were
taught by staff members in small
groups in private houses: in my
case by Mr. Allan in a house in
Westwood Road. There were about
six of us in his class, I think.
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From
Alan Osborne (Infant Class of 1937,
the day the school opened)
Have enjoyed looking at some of
the Torbitt site. Well done to those
responsible.
A couple of my war memories include
my mother hosting school classes
in her home during a period or periods
when the school was out of action.
The teacher and several children
had their classes in our dining
room whilst I was sent out into
the garden whilst they were there.
Has anyone ever mentioned the billetting
of the Scots Guards in Spearpoint
Gardens and Abury Gardens, now called
Aldborough Road North? They took
over several empty houses and Abury
House opposite to where I lived,
was their H.Q. I never tired of
watching them Changing the Guard
each day. All the children used
to ask them for badges and buttons,
but I was the lucky one when one
Guardsman fired a blank round in
one of the houses so I could have
the brass cartridge! I seem to remember
eventually swapping it for two Beanos
and a Dandy (comics). My parents
became friendly with two of the
Guardsmen and they used to come
to our house a few evenings a week
and play Darts or Cribbage with
my father until they were sent to
North Africa.
From
Constance Young:
When the war broke out all those
children that were not being evacuated
with the school were asked what
they were going to do . I put
up my hand and said I was going
away with my family to Hockley.
Frank Mooney, also in my class,
said the same . His parents had
a holiday bungalow in Hockley.
From then on we became firm friends.
We are still lifelong friends
and as he still lives in the U.K.
we correspond by E Mail. We are
both 80 next year.
I
remember so clearly our class
was sent down to one of the infants
classes where we were all fitted
for gas masks. Just talking about
it brings back the smell of the
gas masks (funny how different
smells bring back memories).
It
was a thrilling day when one girl
was chosen and one boy to go with
Miss Honey to meet Queen Mary.
I was the girl chosen and a boy
named Charles. We went on the
bus to the King George hospital
where the Queen was to open a
new wing. However the Queen was
involved in a car accident and
was unable to attend. The duchess
of Athlone came in her place.
I practised for a week doing a
curtsey and making a speech. My
Mother made me a new blue dress
It was a Deanna Durbin style (she
was the film star of the day).
It was a beautiful memory to look
back on. A brass band was playing
and every time I hear a brass
band I get a tear in my eye.
Thursday
lunch hour was spent in the hall
at school as several of us were
learning the violin. The music
teacher was named Miss King.
From:
Robert Smith
I remember the
last two war years at the school
with lessons in the corridor and
a rocket blowing out all the windows
- a day off!
From:
Dennis Shrubshall
My Sister Dorothy
Violet was at the Torbitt School
when it transferred from Downshall
She was born in 1927 and lived
in the Railway Cottages next to
Newbury Park Station. Her maiden
name was Shrubshall. I am 7 years
younger but remember being with
her on Ilford Station to get on
a train and we had labels on our
collars of our with names. My
two elder brothers also were there
and we all finished up at Stowmarket.
I went to Newbury Park School
as did my eldest Brother but the
other one went to Downshall School..
Ironically in 1943 My younger
Brother Alan who was at Willliam
Torbitt and I were evacuated again
and lo and behold went to Nacton
School and lived in Levington.
Like others have mentioned when
we reached Ipswich we transferred
to coaches for the final journey.
I am trying to identify my sister
in any of the photos as she is
80years old on 29th March and
it would be a surprise. I will
visit the site again to see if
I can find anything about my young
Brother as he sadly died 8 years
ago. Any help you could give would
be gratefully appreciated.
From
Ruth Bartlett, nee Davey - 1937-38.
Further to the item on Seven Kings
Park - there was an ack-ack unit
there near the Bedford Road entrance
during 1941-1943.
Also, I seem to remember a deep
dug air raid shelter. When we stayed
in it our whole family caught scabies
and had to have sulphur baths to
get rid of it.
From
Shirley Bowl (later Shirley Headley):
We had gas mask practice every Friday
morning. The boys used to breath
heavily to make a "raspberry"
noise. We kept a barleysugar sweet
inside the gas mask. This was supposed
to keep us going if we had to actually
wear them in a raid but most of
them got eaten since sweets were
in such short supply!
From Mavis
Nelson:
I read on a previous message that
it was Roy Perkins who was killed
when the V2 fell on the Dick Turpin
- in actual fact it was Phil Perkins,
Roy's brother, and when it was
rebuilt Roy Perkins took over
as governor of the Dick Turpin
for many years.
The war unnerved
all the children. I stayed home
in Ilford until 1944 when I went
up th Doncaster for a while, when
the Doodle bugs started, but came
home the day the first V2 fell.
.............Seven
Kings Park was made over to allottments
and I remember watching a V1 from
behind a compost heap as its engine
cut out and we waited to see if
it would drop straight down or glide
on, it took the latter course and
went on toward Barkingside before
exploding. The two houses next to
the park were taken out by a V2,
I think there were fatalities. At
school we had to sit in the corridors,
with our gasmasks, when the siren
went.
Click
the crest to visit the Fairlop Airfield
Website. >>>>
(This will open a new browser window
- click back on this window to return
to this page).
........
a German airman who was shot down,
parachuted on to the fields behind
Aldborough Farm and was captured
by some of our neighbours in Applegarth
Drive, given a cup of tea, and led
away by the Home Guard. Somehow
or other, my Mum got hold of his
parachute, cut it up and used it
as sheets.......
From Barbara
Nicholls (now Buckman):
After the scholarship came the
holidays and then the war. We
were evacuated (my young sister
and I) to Ipswich on the first
of September 1939. I cant
really remember the preparations
but I do remember being on the
train at Ilford Station and arriving
in Ipswich. We were taken to a
church hall I think and then were
allowed to have some of the goodies
out of the bag we had all been
given (I remember there were custard
cream biscuits and a tin of corned
beef and I think some chocolate
but what else Ive forgotten
although I do remember the brown
paper carrier bag it was in!)
There were lots
of people about and a lot of noise
then this elderly lady said yes
she would take me and my sister.
We went to Felixstowe Road in
a car (we werent used to
cars and were a bit afraid). The
ladys name was Mrs Chipperfield
and she had a husband, a daughter
and a son. The daughter (Violet
known as Auntie Vi to us) was
staying with her at the time on
holiday from Wirral in Cheshire
where she lived with her husband.
The son (Uncle Fred to us) lived
a few doors away from Mr &
Mrs Chipperfield with his wife
Evelyn. Fred was a grocer and
a part time Special Constable.
He was quite chubby, has a big
moustache and was great fun. Auntie
Vi was beautiful and took great
care of us whilst she was there.
Aunty and Uncle Chips (as we called
Mr & Mrs Chipperfield ) looked
after us very well; quite differently
from how we were used to. Strict
but in a different way from how
our parents were strict. The first
night we slept well in a huge
double bed with a feather mattress
we had a lovely bedroom
too. Next morning we got up and
had breakfast and then we stood
at the gate watching the trolleybuses
go by and feeling very miserable
and grizzling a bit. We found
it peculiar at first as we had
constant attention, which we werent
used to coming from a big family,
but soon settled down. No tantrums
allowed there but no clips round
the ear either. Food was regulated
to times and amounts but very
varied and nutritious even if
rationing was on. Aunty Chips
made cakes every week and we were
allowed to choose one sort each
( she baked several all
large cakes to be sliced in portions
). We ate in the garden whenever
possible. Uncle Chips used to
take us on long walks by the River
Orwell and told us about the birds
and animals around and the flowers.
We used to love it. Laura
my sister was sent to school
fairly quickly I believe but us
older ones never went to a school
until much later and I dont
remember anything about it except
that it was called Nacton Road
School. We went to peoples
houses and were taught in front
rooms for a while but it was a
bit of a farce. If I remember
rightly the schools for older
children were overflowing. We
were invited to the Junior school
sometimes for events and we went
there in the school breaks to
help look after animals and things
and we saw hen eggs hatch out
and were astounded at such a feat
I remember. Life went on, Mum
and Dad visited a couple of times.
It was a cold winter and our parents
were instructed to send us warm
clothing and wellies and we had
knitted pixie hoods, never been
so well dressed and no hand me
downs! Christmas came and Auntie
Vi came back and her husband (Uncle
Jim) came for the actual holiday
days. He brought us a large box
of Terrys All Gold chocolates
what a treat and
we were allowed two each day and
were allowed to give the others
one each and no more. Auntie said
normally we were to share things
but as sweets were rare and we
had never had such a treat before
we were to be allowed to keep
them for ourselves. We savoured
those chocolates and, of course,
they lasted a long time. We had
lots of presents, not in the league
of todays children at Christmas
but many more than we were used
to, so we had some on Christmas
Day and some on Boxing Day.
We used to be
taken to town sometimes. We walked
with Uncle, and Auntie went on
the trolleybus. Sometimes we came
back on the trolleybus but sometimes
we had to walk. It was quite a
long way but we loved it. The
grocery shop Uncle Fred worked
in was a really olde worlde shop
in the Buttermarket. They used
to pat the butter into packs and
everything was weighed up from
large containers. We were fascinated
by it all. And a couple of times
we were taken to the pictures,
queue up for an hour then front
row ninepenny seats. We had to
crane our necks upwards to see
but it was lovely - Gracie Fields
in Singing Sally and Sing As We
Go. We never went to the pictures
at home!
I realize now
that they were not very well off
but managed what money they had
very well and we were included
in treats.
In May we were
told we were to be moved and had
to write a postcard to tell parents,
to be posted by the school just
telling them we were moving but
not where to. Aunty Chips telephoned
our parents (from the call box
across the road few had
their own telephone) and they
said they would come and fetch
us. It was a Friday and they picked
us up on Saturday morning (we
had to be ready because Dad had
to get a taxi from the station
and we went straight back). I
remember the journey home
we didnt know whether we
wanted to go back or not. Anyway
the rest of those who werent
collected by parents were sent
to Wales on the Saturday afternoon.
On that Saturday night Ipswich
had its first air raid so someone
knew a thing or two. (We did have
a warning siren go off on the
day war was declared third
of September and we had
to don gas masks and sit under
the table but it was a false alarm).
Really the evacuation
as far as we were concerned was
just a long holiday interspersed
with lessons which werent
difficult to handle, and new friends
and a completely different environment
from that which we had been in
before.
We kept in touch
with Aunty and Uncle Chips and
they came to our weddings although
poor Uncle Chips went blind. They
are all gone now but we shall
never forget them.
I moved to Norfolk
when I retired, in a country village,
and I realize that the walks with
Uncle Chips werent wasted.
Perhaps they were part of the
reasons for me moving to the country
from London!
From Frank
Mooney:
I transferred
to the Torbitt School from Downshall
in 1937 till 1939, did not evacuate
so there was no school to go to
for some time. During that time,
I did a morning paper round for
the shop next to the Aldborough
Stores, some times the air raids
were still on, but I was quite
safe with my tin hat on, and being
out early in the morning I was
able to collect all the shrapnel
and tail fins from burnt out incendiary
bombs etc.
I managed to
get a pass to get into Fairlop
Air Field to sell news papers
and cigarettes (I was paid nine
shillings a week [45p] for doing
the paper round, and half a crown
[12½p] for washing and polishing the
shop owners car, a Morris 8).
I used to spend most of the day
over there, it was quite exciting.
I was over there during the Battle
of Britain, I used to help to
strap the pilots in their Spitfires,
but they stopped me doing that
after two of them never came back.
I used to sit on the tail of a
spitfire and hang on for dear
life whilst the engine was being
run up for a full power test.
I got chucked out one day, three
captured German planes landed
and a lot of bigwigs had come
from London to inspect them and,
as I was inspecting them, they
noticed me and ask me what I was
doing there so I showed them my
pass, and as I had sold all my
papers, I got my marching orders,
but there was another day.
The Scots Guards
where stationed in Abury House
and some new houses that were
not occupied in Aldborough Road,
they used to parade and march
up and down Aldborough Road, and
have dances and socials in St.
Peter's church hall. There were
a few local bomb incidents and
the V2 rocket that came down in
front of the Dick Turpin pub that
killed Mr.Perkins and I believe
some army officers who were out
side at the time talking to him
to arrange a party for that evening.
After a while
some evacuees had started to return,
and schools were still closed,
so they started morning and afternoon
classes in private houses, but
I got expelled from that for poking
my pencil through the table cloth.
Then after a while a school was
opened at Gants Hill, I liked
it there, there was thick snow
on the ground then and the school
was lovely and warm, isn't it
daft how you remember things like
that and not much else. When schools
did reopen I went to St Peter
and St Pauls in Ilford.
and from Terence
Wright: I really started to pay attention
when the Dick Turpin was mentioned.
A few of us would hang around
outside the place on Saturdays.
The charabancs would start to
leave and the accordion player
would play 'Pennies From Heaven'
whereupon the ever-so-slightly
intoxicated passengers would throw
pennies out the windows. We would
scramble feverishly to get every
last one of them. Usually, afterwards,
we would each get a large bottle
of Tizer and drink the lot!
I believe it
was a Saturday morning that the
pub took a near hit from the V2.
I was in the bath at the time,
and the strange swishing sound
caused me to submerge--quickly!
I sensed something unusual was
happening. Even as far away as
Aldborough Road, where we lived,
across from the park, the explosion
gave our house, already damaged,
a good shaking. Later, when we
got word of the damage to the
pub, my mother and aunt were reduced
to tears. You see, Mr. Perkins
kept the pub open, along with
the piano player, even if there
was no beer. Also, he let the
RAF personnel run up a tab. Sometimes
they never got back to pay.
...and
here's a memory from someone who
actually saw the Dick Turpin blown
up by a V2 rocket in November
1944.
My mother was
with my sister and brother outside
Thompsons talking to a lady who
was with her sons, one in a pram.
One of the boys, looking idly
up Aldborough Road towards St
Peters, suddenly shouted out "what's
that", or something to that
effect. What he had seen, and
what I saw for the first time
in my life, was a vapour trail,
and it was coming across the sky
in an arc from right to left,
from the direction of Hainault
towards Newbury Park, quite fast,
and then suddenly curving sharply
downwards.
My mother grabbed me and my brother
and our heads were thrust into
the pram for 'protection' ...
whoooooooffffff .... a tremendous
shock blast came right down Aldborough
Road and rocked us and we looked
up to see an enormous dust plume
climbing into the sky from beyond
the Church. It was a V2 (flying
supersonically and silently in
the upper/lower atmosphere) and
it landed in front of the Dick
Turpin blowing the entire front
and roof off. They subsequently
changed the shape of the roof
and front when it was re-built.
At that time I seem to remember
that it had multiple tall brick
chimneys, although I haven't ever
seen a picture of the pub as it
used to be.
Roy Perkins the publican was killed,
as was an airman cycling past
the Dick Turpin on his way back
to the Airfield. My sister, to
this day, remembers seeing the
airman cycle past Thompsons while
we were standing there talking.
[The Roy Perkins who was killed
was the father of the Roy Perkins
who was later to became 'mine
host' at the Dick Turpin]
The
tunnels between Newbury Park and
Gants Hill (now for the Underground)
were not opened until several years
after the Second World War - they
were used as a munitions factory
and/or by Plessey's. A couple of
"Torbitt Mums" worked
down there.
.....used
to stand at the top of the footpath
next to St Peter's church and watch
the fighters landing and taking
off in the distance. Fairlop finished
up as a Balloon Base, manned by
WAAFs, and some 19 V1 bombs were
brought down by their battery of
balloons.